It’s time for a new episode of Nerdcast, POLITICO’s podcast on the White House and politics. Tune in each week to geek out with us as we dig deep into the political landscape and the latest numbers that matter.
Datapoint: At least 4. There are at least four people in the top ranks of the Department of Homeland Security who are gone. That includes former DHS secretary Kirstjen Nielsen as well as her deputy and the leaders of the Secret Service and Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Two POLITICO White House reporters join the Nerdcast to explain what happens now.
Datapoint: 34 days. That’s the length of the government shutdown that started at the end of 2018 and continued through most of January. That was the longest government shutdown ever, and it serves as the conclusion of two years of painstaking research and interviewing by POLITICO playbook writers Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer, who join the Nerdcast to talk about their new book “The Hill To Die On.”